I want to buy an OWL but

… a lot of questions are still stopping me for doing so.

  1. Can i run different effects on the left and right channel? Like on the FV-1 which has two DSP cores?
  2. Can i read/write midi data to/from the OWL into a DAW?
  3. What does the bicolour LED switch exactly do? Can i access its state in a patch?
  4. Can the OWL handle a multi patch like Compressor->Delay->Reverb-Lowpass?
  5. Is the OWL hardware extendable? Are there any internal I2C connectors available to add a simple display or to add rotary encoders?
  6. Is the OWL API designed in a way that add ons like above are possible?
  7. Is the sound quality on a level like a commercial pedal? Boss, TC, Line6
  8. What kind of signal does the expression pedal input require?
  9. Why can’t i find tons of videos on youtube of proud OWL users jamming away?
  10. When will the next batch of OWLs be available.

Thanks a lot,

stiwi

If you want to look at the current state I suggest downloading the VST (build on Juce) and firing it up in a DAW. IMHO, there’s still a long road ahead for this to catch on and be on par with some of the commercial units out there.

Good questions!

When we first created the OWL Kickstarter campaign, the primary goal was to create a hardware platform that could support a growing developer community. We knew that we didn’t have the resources to launch with a library of effects that could compete with decades of work done by the major players in the music technology industry. But we knew that by providing capable, high-performance hardware (given recent developments in ARM microcontrollers and modern codecs) we could open the field to the open-source community. Our bet was on there being enough interested DSP-coders and musician-programmers to get the ball rolling.

Personally I think we’ve succeeded with our first goal. If you have any doubts, consider the fact that the OWL can run Pure Data as well as Faust effects (we’re launching a set of patches soon!), and already has over 30 patches, most of which are user contributed and many that are amazing and unique to the OWL. It’s true that we’re not that great with promotion and showing how much fun the OWL can be. We’re techies, and our focus is still on building and improving the technology.

And now that we’ve created the device, we are turning our attention to the software. We, the core team, believe that the OWL has massive potential to unleash the creativity not only of coders, but non-coding musicians as well. It is, after all, a stompbox to rock out with, a pedal that adds something unique and personal to your sound and musicianship. However, as d3b5s3r hints at, we’re not quite there yet!

The OWL is primarily lacking, in my opinion, the following:

  • dynamic patch loading : currently new patches must be compiled and uploaded with the firmware
  • online library : to easily share patches, samples, and settings
  • online compiler : instead of downloading, installing and upgrading toolchain, simply use a web service
In the vision we have for the future of the OWL, these aspects all come together in a new app that can run on your computer, smartphone or tablet. We're currently in the planning stages and are working on a road map. If you, OWL users and supporters, have ideas and would like to tell us what is important to you, we'd love your input!

After that lengthy prelude, now let me answer some of your questions!

  1. Yes, or you can run two effects in series (mono or stereo), or two effects that you toggle between with the pushbutton.
  2. Yes, but currently the device is not sending MIDI data in realtime, ie when you turn the knob, but only when polled by a MIDI CC message. This reduces the MIDI processing overheads.
  3. In the current dev version of the firmware: yes you can! We’re introducing a Single patch mode (along with Dual, Series and Parallel) which lets the patch handle the button. Otherwise, the button toggles the active patch: green or red.
  4. Yes: several effects can be combined in a single patch, and two patches can be loaded in series. The only limiting factor is available CPU cycles.
  5. Yes, there are 2 SPI’s and 2 serial interfaces exposed - pls see schematics on wiki.
  6. The API is is intentionally minimalist, but the firmware itself is open to hacking any way you like.
  7. Yes. The current firmware runs at 48kHz (96kHz is possible), 24bits stereo, with 128 samples per block, giving a latency of 2.67ms, and SNR on a par with other digital pedals.
  8. You can plug in a generic Roland style expression pedal. If you need to swap Tip and Ring, then this can be done in software. It is also technically possible to use Tip and Ring for two independent ADCs, or even a serial interface (it connects a UART TX and RX pins), but we’ve not yet had the time to experiment much with this.
  9. We have so far shipped less than 200 units, that’s perhaps part of the answer. We’re useless with doing recordings ourselves, that’s another. I promise, we’ll try to improve!

@d3b5s3r thanks for your reply and the VST hint.
@mars thank you for your detailed answer. I am now pretty much convinced that i ‘need’ an OWL.

A few more questions about the bicolour LED switch in single patch mode.

  • can i switch the LED color and/or turn it on/off from within a patch to indicate a LFO/delay speed, compressor threshold, clipping, etc.?
  • can i read the state of the switch from within a patch to implement something like tap to tempo, parameter randomizer, buffer juggler, etc.?

I am looking foreward to get my OWL and port some of my dsp stuff to OWL.

Thanks a lot,
stiwi

A little bit off-topic, but why can’t i edit my previous post? I would like to remove some typos.

Turns out the forum only lets you edit posts up to 5 mins after you’ve posted. The idea is to prevent spam edits. I’ve changed it to give us 6hrs instead - you should be able to edit now.

I finally ordered my OWL yesterday. What would be a realistic shipping date?

Good to hear!
We’re waiting on a delivery of Neutrik jacks, which should arrive early next week. We’ll be finishing and testing units and dealing with the backlog of orders as we go along. Long answer short: Mid July or sooner!

TD;LR: Owl for sale at half pre-order price.

I really hope this isn’t too much bad form to piggyback this thread for my purpose.

I’m in need of money and my Owl mostly collects dust. I don’t regret backing it, in fact I think it’s still a great success, but after some 30 years of programming, i’m really not that into it, and I feel to enjoy it to the fullest, I’d need to be into that. If I were motivated enough I’d make a EHX B9 organ patch :wink: I’m just too impatient with the complexities of software development these days.

It’s been used (as in power-up) perhaps 10 hours, always handpressed on the stomp switch, etc) so it’s in very nice shape.

My ad on vend.se with reply form to contact me:
http://vend.se/237705-the-owl-programmerbar-effektpedal

I’d send it with the original box and the “Half the preorder price” includes postage to the EU.

I’ve created a Buy and Sell forum :
http://hoxtonowl.com/forums/forum/buy-and-sell/
(for future reference)

Okay, made a post there, feel free to erase my post if you wish.

I got this email today.

Dear OWL supporter!

We’ve just finished packaging your pedal, and like Elvis, it has left
the building!

Cool. Thats great news. Can’t wait to hear it live with my guitar setup.